Disaster Loan

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#15045 Closed public Multifamily Les Sparks
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Hi,
I’m working on an audit for a client with a 223f mortgage that got the SBA disaster loan. The loan has as a collateral “all tangible personal property”. The loan was taken under the Partnership name (not management) and requires payments starting next year. The client did not get approval from HUD to get this loan. Would you include a finding? Would HUD allow payments on the loan?  I attended the December webinar and my understanding was that PPP loan was fine because it did not have the property as collateral. Also, what leadcode would you use for the loan?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Les Sparks

Clara, a few things have changed since December. HUD issues an updated Q&A and the topic of the PPP/EIDL loans was addressed. Here is what they say:

 

Q2: Are Small Business Administration Paycheck Protection Program (SBA PPP) and Economic Injury Disaster (EIDL) loans subject to the normal HUD subordinate financing rules, including requiring payments from surplus cash?

A: The Department’s standard subordinate financing requirements must be followed for PPP and EIDL loans. For subsidized properties repayment can only come from surplus cash.

 

This question was updated on January 4th of 2021. So, it appears that the latest iteration indicates it is noncompliance. I am still a little wary to report this as a finding. Non one is sure what to do. IN reality it looks like a finding. I am not sure what will happen when all oof these get reported.

 

As far as the COAs is concerned, it depends on whether the client has  Section 8 contract or not. As you can note above, with Section 8 repayment is supposed to come form surplus cash. In a mortgage situation it does not. So, I would pick either of the following:

 

               2323 – Other Loans and Notes – Surplus Cash (if there is Section 8)

               2324 – Other Loans and Notes (no Section 8)

 

If you are sure about forgiveness, then I would NOT use the 2323 as when it is forgiven, the reduction will trigger a surplus cash review item when in reality it was just forgiven.

 

Les Sparks

AHACPA

(801) 547-0809

 

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